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In light of the current state of radicalism (Liberal/ Socialist and Islamic) How do you feel about this...?

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia This is true and can be checked at http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp Muslims who want to live under Islamic Shari law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Shari law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television. "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Shari law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia " "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom" "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .. Learn the language!" "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture." "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'." "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here So accept the country YOU accepted." Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths ! If you agree please SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW! Try to read the entire text before you answer. mtok RTFQ Sparky, the entire statement is a plea to maintain the historical foundations of a country very much like the US.

Public Comments

1. Auzzies are nice people but I don't have to agree with their politics, okay mate?
2. The problem, with all this about the Australians, is that it has NO strength in law. It would have just about as much effect if I told the Muslims to get out of Australia. The ones who have gained citizenship can leave if they want, but cannot be made to leave. If the break the law, then they can be imprisoned, but they cannot be made to leave the country. By the same token, once we let someone have citizenship in the USA, unless we can prove fraud in their application, we are stuck with them. It ought to be harder to become a USA citizen.
3. I can't believe this. The whole foundation of America was to have religious freedom!!! Protestants, Quakers and other religious groups were being persecuted in Great Britain so they made a home here. This could be the most unpatriotic article towards America ever because it is so ignorant of the values America stands for. America has always been filled with immigrants. The only people that can claim rightful citizenship here are the Native Americans. Of course, America being as great as it is...you can voice this opinion but I just want to let you know that this is America's history.
4. We will not overcome terror by being politically correct. Although not all Muslims are terrorists, just about all terrorists are Muslims. The Hamas and other Muslim terrorist groups have been firing Qassam missiles at southern Israel since the summer of 2005 (when Israel left Gaza), targeting innocent Israeli citizens. They have been "successful" and killed several Israelis. Next, they accepted a cease fire but continue to launch missiles at Israel from Gaza, although the Israelis continue to observe the cease fire very strictly. You fight terrorism by making it ill-advised for terrorists to do their thing. You kill them, you punish their families--especially their parents. You destroy their homes. You confiscate their property. There is no argument against this approach. It will be effective against the overwhelming majority of terrorists.